It doesn’t really matter how much of a Metal Gear follower you are, odds are you get pretty lost at some points throughout the MGS timeline. Well, don’t worry because even the man responsible for Metal Gear, Hideo Kojima gets confused at times.

In a recent interview with Eurogamer, Kojima said, “I personally get confused too about the whole timeline and saga of Metal Gear Solid. This is especially tricky when you create the future first and then go back in time to create something new. There are a lot of small aspects where sometimes it doesn’t match completely.”

So how does he manage to keep all of this MGS madness in order? Well, for Metal Gear Solid 4 he resulted in creating complete timelines for each of the characters involved in the series along with a timeline for key historical events that have taken place.

So don’t feel bad, guys. Metal Gear confuses everyone. But honestly, I think that’s part of what makes it so awesome.